Ralph Hauwert has recently revealed some of his magic showing off the shading power of flash player 10. I was really wondering about the texture quality of the new 3d goodness so I’ve put a small skybox demo using Ralph’s branch of papervision for fp10 and this stunning shot by Roger Taylor this panoramic shoot we did of an landscape installation by Anne Walk.
I must admit I was totally stunned by the results, the quality is absolutely amazing if you are used to 3d in fp9. The textures are silky smooth and it still runs better than dedicated panorama viewers for flash 9!
Some fullscreen(1440×900) results on my Macbook pro core duo 2.4 Ghz (santa rosa):
- standalone: 39-41 fps
- safari: 44-45 fps
- firefox: 24-25fps
These results are curieus to say the least. First of all how can flash player in safari run faster than standalone? And why is firefox running at half the speed of safari?
And what does it mean for future websites made especially for flash player 10. Well they are going to look really really good. With the help of all the other goodies (pixelbender, better font renderer, color management, h.264 support ) coming with fp10 we are going to see some really high quality productions in 2009!
Check out this fp10 panorama! Hit space for stats, use arrow keys to zoom in and out. Feel free to share your (fullscreen)results. Keep in mind that for fps counter to be meaningful the panorama must be moving.
On the penetration of flash player 10 side. There are no official numbers for adobe yet but our website ( +- 50000 visitors a month) it’s right now at 45% and growing really fast, 3-5% a week. So if you are starting an ambitious project today, consider targeting flash 10 because you don’t want your project to feel outdated by the time you launch 
Source is not available for download because it’s all work in progress.
December 15, 2008 at 12:21 am |
wow! silky smooth!
December 15, 2008 at 8:11 am |
Whoa, that looks very nice! On my Intel Core Duo 2.26 in Firefox in runs at an incredible 60fps.
I am just starting a new project in January and we already decided to use FP10. This confirms, that it was a good decision. Thanks Mark!
December 15, 2008 at 8:46 am |
Thanks for posting these interesting findings. Your fp10 panorama example works like a charm!
December 20, 2008 at 9:14 pm |
Thanx guys.
Bartek it’s cool to that you guys are already using FP10, hopefully we can push papervision fp10 soon enough for 3d projects to come …
Are you dudes coming to FITC amsterdam? It be nice to meet you in person
January 23, 2009 at 5:18 am |
Mark:
That is an awesome image! I was getting ~60fps as well…
While panning with the mouse, I noticed an odd flicker occasionally — sort of a large gray triangle (1/4 screen size). Sometimes to edge to edge… Weird.
Running 10GB RAM, Safari 3.2.x, Flash plugin 10.x.
Cheers,
Patrick
ps: you might check out what we’re up to with PV3D & panoramas.
January 24, 2009 at 8:55 pm |
very nice. look forward to using this kinda thing in projects;
January 24, 2009 at 9:42 pm |
What did you use to convert the original panorama for use in Skybox??
January 25, 2009 at 3:44 pm |
@Gil, I used CubicConverter for osx.
@Patrick, I did experience weird flickering with the beta fp10 players, I haven’t noticed one with the release player yet but it wouldn’t surprise me if it still happens on some system because I used the most untested/unreleased/deadend branch of papervision for it
February 1, 2009 at 9:29 pm |
If your looking for some tutorials on Papervision you can check out http://hubpages.com/hub/Papervision-3D-programming-tutorial—Depth-of-Field and http://hubpages.com/hub/Papvervision-3D-programming-tutorial—Casting-Shadows
February 17, 2009 at 3:19 pm |
Would you please take off my image from this web-site. My images are copyrighted and you didn’t ask for any permission.
If you want to keep it, contact me otherwise remove it and let me know.
Thank you
Giuseppe Parisi
February 17, 2009 at 4:26 pm |
@G2 Studio –> I’m sorry for the inconvenience we have caused to you by posting this picture, we were convinced this picture was under creative commons licence, our bad.
We will replace this picture today.
edit: It’s removed now
March 19, 2009 at 10:25 am |
Hey Mark,
I’m doing a few benchmarks with FP10 and Papervision as well.
Would you be able to share the source, so I can tinker with it?
That’d be cool.
Cheers,
Andre
April 8, 2009 at 8:07 am |
Hello again,
What kind of config were you guys using?
So it’s a skybox with a cube, 6 textures, etc… but what size do the textures have?
And are you using precise = true, or smooth = true on the texture?
I’m trying to figure out why it’s so smooth
April 8, 2009 at 2:59 pm |
Hi Andre,
Unfortunately this time I can’t release the source code but I can talk about how it’’s done. It’s a classic skybox, a cue with 6 textures. The reason why it’s so smooth is perspective correction for textures, it’s a flash 10 feature, smoothing is also on. You can’t use it with current version papervision. I’m sure this can be easily done now with the flash 10 branch of Away3d.
Hope this helps.
December 3, 2009 at 10:55 pm |
Hi Mark,
Could you please tell me (or us) how to get this famous cs4 branch?
I just found the url on googlecode http://code.google.com/p/papervision3d/source/browse/#svn/trunk/branches/cs4, but I can’t find the svn url for my subversion client (svns on mac).
Is there a more easy way to get this version than using subversion depository?
Thank you very much for your help!
Best regards,
David
December 12, 2009 at 5:03 pm |
Hi David,
It’s not the cs4 branch that you need, it is the fp10 branch. There no easy way to download it now, other than via SVN. I’m using the SVNX on mac and I like it
cheers,
mark
December 12, 2009 at 6:40 pm |
Hi!
Ha ok!
Thank you so much for this usefull answer!
I just downloaded it witn svnx! Will try it very soon!
Thank you again!
Regards
David
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December 26, 2009 at 2:03 pm |
Хорошо и полезно, а будет еще что-то из этой же серии?